Why did we design a leadership course for middlies?!

A conversation between Reframe’s creators and facilitators Rochelle Robertson and Clare Jones

Rochelle: Most leadership programmes start with a framework. We decided to start with a question: why do you think so many people become bad leaders?

Clare: I think that's a bit harsh on people, actually. Most people are never taught how to lead. They just get really good at something, and then they get promoted into a job where they're responsible for other people doing that thing.

Rochelle: And in the meantime, they get imposter syndrome, because there's a huge gap between what they used to be brilliant at and this whole new skill set that involves humans and being responsible for them.

Clare: Exactly…